Saturday, December 22, 2007

Reality of Usman and other moderators of islam community

Islam Community Reality and Facts

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Usman latest blasphemy and use of disgusting statement about our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم and Hazrat Ayesha (RA)







Usman (new salman rush-die) Reality


This person usman was last time caught and punished for the disrespect of our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم

click here to see after looking at the blog how the moderators behaved and removed usman from moderation.

Note: last time none of the moderators took any action until we uploaded the blog. after looking at blog moderators ran to sami and aamir to come and solve this issue. which was solved when usman accepted his apology and than he was removed from moderation.


As due to my several engagements i wasnt able to give time to okut. Usman thought he is the king again so he started again.


Behavior of Usman in Islam Community:

usman along with his friends and moderators including:

1 - Bolour (shia)
2 - Ozair (another hypocrite)
3 - Fardeen (shia)
4 - Aliyar (another hypocrite)
5 - Sana (shia)
6 - Aqsa (another hypocrite)
7 - Valiant (another hypocrite)
8 - Raheel (another hypocrite)
9 - Sabih (another hypocrite)
10 - Dawood (another hypocrite)

Abusing Sahaba Karam (RA) is normal behavior in Islam community:

Sana who declared Hazrat Abu Huraira (RA) an unreliable Sahabi (RA) NAUZUBILLAH and called Hazrat Abu Huraira (RA) a liar nauzubillah.

whole group supported her in different ways.

abusing members of community:

usman abuse members in community with lame excuses like it is in general. so what the hell is happening in islam community on the name of islam??

where in islam it is allowed to abuse others even in general?? all the moderators supported him.


Declaring Hadiths funny, nonsense, bad manners(Nauzubillah):

Sana declared hadiths with such words mentioned above. surprisingly all the group members and the moderators supported her.


In the end these people ask what is wrong in what they are doing. According to bolour abusing Sahaba (RA) is part of shiaat so it should be allowed in Islam community.


lets talk about Usman latest disrespect of our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم and Hazrat Ayesha (RA)


once again his friends asking what usman has done this time.

Click here to look at the thread:


take a look at this screen shot. Usman message is deleted from here. later i will show the supporters comments aswell.

he is commenting about Hazrat Ayesha (RA):




this is not end. usman further explained here what he meant to say:



The question is if usman doesnt have knowledge of islam or he doesnt know how to talk respectfully who gave him rights to give such disgusting statements.

He thinks he is the king now and untouchable.

Last time i asked to ban this hypocrite from community but as Raheel promised and was very active to save his friend usman promised that usman wont be a moderator anymore.

now take a look at the promise of Raheel how Raheel played games with words and kept usman moderator at the back in moderators community. where usman is involved in every moderation issue. not only involve but taking active part.

Click here to see moderators community:

Raheel the hypocrite thought he will lie to us and than let usman play his game. it seems these people think muslims are blind or have no wisdom at all.

Support of other members of usman group:


8:35 pm (5 hours ago)

Janasheen

Where are the Moderators, man!

Why are the thread-poopers destroying threads? Whats the impression you guys are giving to the not-yet Muslims?


this janasheen is fardeen one of the shia members of this group who said 2 things before.

he declared Hazrat Abu Huraira (RA) as person who mentioned most of the anti women hadiths Nauzubillah.

1 - Hazrat Abu Huraira (RA) was anti women nauzubillah
2 - Hadiths are anti women

nauzubillah

this is the reality of fardeen who hold id as janasheen these days.



8:37 pm (5 hours ago)

Janasheen

Ya Allah!

Where did Usman mention the Prophet(saw) or Hazrat Ayesha in his sentence?

Why are you'll fighting with Muslims for no apparent reason?



again fardeen now he wants proof that usman said that about our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم and Hazrat Ayesha (RA). what a hypocrite he is.



8:43 pm (5 hours ago)

Aqsa[dead busy]

Since mODERATOR Saifi is also confused along with few members let none but Raheel solve this issue after 8 days.

The statement of Usman is general whoever is trying to take it in disrespectful way for Great personalities indeed are having comprehending problems.

oNLY A SENSIBLE PERSON CAN SOLVE THIS SO OTHER SENSIBLE PEOPLE HOLD ON FOR SOME DAYS.


Oh we got support of Aqsa for usman.

reality of Aqsa is she posted few verses of Quran which were starting with O believers!, O people of faith! about the respect of our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم and in the conclusion she said these verses cant be cited for muslims these verses are for non muslims only. nauzubillah. she is the famous forger of Quran and hadiths all over orkut.



8:45 pm (5 hours ago)

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another person of this group sabih. The famous hadith rejector. famous to support all the disrespect done for Sahaba (RA) and Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم he actually doesnt believe in Quran aswell. but for playing drama he always say Quran Quran and when you show him any verse he will deny it.


8:48 pm (5 hours ago)

Janasheen

Saifi

I am quite amused to learn your analytical/comprehending skills!

8:50 pm (5 hours ago)

Aqsa[dead busy]

uSMAN

CUT IT OUT!

I told you to wait for Raheel.


here you can see Aqsa is asking to bring Raheel the hypocrite in this case. so he can solve the case like last time?? removing the name of usman rushdi and keep him moderation??



8:52 pm (5 hours ago)

Janasheen

Saifi

Bhai, Allah ke vaaste mereko bataao ki Usman bhai ne kaha Huzoor(saw) ka zikr kiya us sentence mein?

Usman ek general baat kar rahe the.

Please is baat par tawajjo do.



for fardeen it was general talk. not the statement about our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم and Hazrat Ayesha (RA). what a manipulator this person is...





8:53 pm (5 hours ago)

AliiYaaR

saifi

.
now ur asking for clarification ? and what about these statements

adnan
The renowned abuser of this community has done it again.

adnan
You were removed before for the same reason but you havent learn any thing from it.

junaid
Astigfiruallah.This guy is just too much.Why do we allow such jahils to stay in our community who dont even give respect to prophet(saw).

Usman just shut up man just shut up

Kashif
now we have to rpove what usman said and about whom he said. soon we will see usman abusing members and bolour will come to defend him.

Kashif
oh we can see the real faces now

supporters of usman are popping out the same way they popped out to support disrespect of Sahaba (RA)

here comes aqsa.




aliyar the hypocrite he have nothing to do with our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم all he cares is what stand others are taking against usman is wrong. what a hypocrite he is he is trying hard to ignore the disrespect and make issues against muslims who are defending.

shame on this manipulator!


Click here to look at the thread where these manipulator


Support of Usman by moderators and ex moderators:


Click here to take a look of usman in moderators thread and the support of usman by other moderators



9:07 pm (5 hours ago)

Janasheen

Saifi

Don't mind, but thats a RIDICULOUS decision!!

One should be thankful to Usman that he gave a brilliant reply as to why Ayesha(ra) did not conceive!

If one is NOT to believe Usman's argument (that Its not always possible to conceive even after consummation), one would be stuck with the only reason remaining for Ayesha(ra) not being able to conceive: That she had not reached puberty before marrying the Prophet(saw) and that IS BLASPHEMY!!

Anyway, the above mentioned reason also doesn't hold weight since the Proiphet(saw) and Aisha(ra) stayed together for 10 years, until which she would have conceived!


together for 10 years, until which she would have conceived!


9:09 pm (5 hours ago)

Janasheen

LITERATE MODERATORS

Please take note of the case and do something FAST!! I still have faith in most of the Moderators!!
9:32 pm (5 hours ago)

Syed

Strange

There are many ahadiths in sahi bukhair and muslim that will be disrespectful if saifi's standards are used!

No offence :P ... although i am sure i will be seen as creating unrest!
9:50 pm (4 hours ago)

Syed

A few ahadiths to support what i said!

Volume 1, Book 5, Number 284:
Narrated Abu Salama :

I asked 'Aisha "Did the Prophet use to sleep while he was Junub?" She replied, "Yes, but he used to perform ablution (before going to bed).

Volume 1, Book 5, Number 286:
Narrated 'Aisha:

Whenever the Prophet intended to sleep while he was Junub, he used to wash his private parts and perform ablution like that for the prayer.


Muhammad PBUH was a human like us (in characteristic) although some believe him to be supernatural but based on what we believe, he was a human and had human needs and there are many hadiths that shows he used to do what we do too .. no disrespect meant, the above hadiths say He PBUH was junub too and tells us what to do in that case.
10:39 pm (4 hours ago)

Dawood (away)

"We all also know that it is not always possible for a mature woman and man to have sex and conceive. "



Saifi you are making me worry about your position as a moderator. What is wrong with that argument which was used as a general rule that it is not "always" possible for a mature woman and man to have sex and concieve??



Tell me saifi, is it ALWAYS possible for you to have sex with any mature woman and concieve?


i dont even know how else to explain it further which should be self-explanatory

i can't understand on what basis you took his argument the way you did. I feel like banning the person who complained to begin with for creating unnecessary issues and complains just because he can't comprehend english.


What the hell is going on in community people making issues out of NOTHING!
It is because of such pathetic complains the community is in tatters.
11:15 pm (3½ hours ago)

Dr. Kizar

@ saifi.

what wrong did you find in usman s words.

as ozair stated there are still more intimate hadiths available.


12:36 am (2 hours ago)

Syed

And yet again, Saifi is always right!
12:39 am (2 hours ago)

Syed

Show me a hadith where usman words are present ,and on what basis he gave explanation about PROPHET (SAW) And his Wife life from scientific knowledge.

Saifi, any knowledgeable person will know after reading those ahadiths and many others that Muhammad PBUH got junub after having intimate, ... some pervert might think that it was masturbation or wet dreams (naauzubillah) but a muslim would not think like that. We know Muhammad PBUH had children and how is that possible without having sex?
12:41 am (2 hours ago)

Sound of Silence

@ Ozair.

"And yet again,Saifi is always right! "


12:42 am (2 hours ago)

Syed

Saifi
But my main question is-- I know she had reached puberty when she consummated the marriage. But Non Muslims are asking me why didnt she give birth to any child?

Saifi, read the question in the first post of the thread, then read the reply of usman, and tell me how would you have replied?



12:45 am (2 hours ago)

Syed

And let alone, usman was a general statement ... if i am not wrong, further relating to the question asked by the topic starter!
12:47 am (2 hours ago)

Syed

sure, as i said several other muslims complained about usman .Go and tell this to them I hope they will listen to you there.

You are a moderator, your decision must not be powered by who and how many complain about another muslim but by understanding of quran, ahadiths and common sense. And let me say again, no offense meant towards you!
12:50 am (1½ hours ago)

Syed

I gave reasons why usman was banned, his chosen words were not appropriate especially when one has to refer to PROPHET (SAW) and HIS WIVES (RA) extreme care should be taken.He stood by his words and hence action was taken.

Uptill now, as i see it, every member has spoken against the decision in this community, there might be something wrong in the decision too or as you said, are all those members who complained are wrong ... let me question you, is usman, fardeen, me, dawood, Dr. Kizar are wrong?


12:51 am (2 hours ago)

Sound of Silence

On a serious note,Saifi's role as a moderator,is inviting more trouble than fixing the problems !!!


No offense on a personal level.



1:31 am (1 hour ago)

Dawood (away)

saifi

Action which i took was on complains of members


You should have comprehension skill of your own too. If you can't understand that Usman's statement was general and not specific to Hazrat Ayesha (R.A) and prophet Muhammad(PBUH) then I am very disturbed to see you as a mod. Now lets look at which members were complaining:

Azhar,kashif,waseem,khurram,adnan,mehek,first fighter,abduallah, etc

THe same group of people who mysteriously joined the islam community and are known as fakies by SEVERAL MEMBERS INCLUDING ME. I saw khurram's scrapbook when it was not private and he joined islam community the same day when he made his profile. many people that he has in his friendlist were going in his scrapbook "who is this and why are you adding me" "Do i know you" etc etc.

and you bring us complains from these fakies as credible complains. Everyone knows that how this group does their bandwagon effect.



There are several members who complained.Are they all wrong or what, they can see that writing such words about PROPHET {SAW} and HADRAT AYESHA {RA} is not islamic in any way


Several members? i dont think its several members. Bunch of fake profiles are not considered several members in my eyes. If there are 10 idiots in one room and one sensible guy, it doesn't mean that what the ten idiots are saying is more credible than one sensible.
1:31 am (1 hour ago)

Syed

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1:35 am (1 hour ago)

Syed

Above post was not for dawood's post :P

@Dawood!
you said:
THe same group of people who mysteriously joined the islam community and are known as fakies by SEVERAL MEMBERS INCLUDING ME. I saw khurram's scrapbook when it was not private and he joined islam community the same day when he made his profile. many people that he has in his friendlist were going in his scrapbook "who is this and why are you adding me" "Do i know you" etc etc.

Do you have proof ... as in, hard evidence, since we cant blame anyone as a fake if we don't have hard evidence. I have been listening that quite often lately.
1:40 am (1 hour ago)

Syed

Saifi,

You didnt reply to my question!

Is usman, fardeen, me, dawood, Dr. Kizar (and now, SOS too ... if i am not wrong) are wrong in objecting on your decision?
1:48 am (1 hour ago)

Dawood (away)

im not calling them all fakies but many of them are. I am 100% sure about khurram that he is a fakie. and no i do not have proof but what my eyes have seen is enough for my tongue to say what i am saying.


regarding adnan, kashif, and mehek i am not sure but they all have the same attitube, behavioral pattern.


they all joined islam community around the same time.


adnan's about me section is EXACT SAME as suleman (this another quiet member in the community who talks less but only replies with smiley icons.)


I am not saying that azhar and waseem are fake but its a known fact that when one person of this group complain, all of them start their bandwagon effect (excluding azhar, hes new to me atm).


My observation regarding waseem is that he used to create the bandwagon effect when kam, omer and mohammad ali used to complain. He would come out of nowhere to complain only without any participation in the discussion.


Accumulation of my experience in this islam community tells me that this group use the bandwagon effect and that is EXACTLY what is happening atm.
1:52 am (1 hour ago)

Syed

im not calling them all fakies but many of them are. I am 100% sure about khurram that he is a fakie. and no i do not have proof but what my eyes have seen is enough for my tongue to say what i am saying.

Lets play the oath game now

Regarding the bandwagon effect, i share the same notion!
1:56 am (56 minutes ago)

Dawood (away)

i meant to say that khurram's about me section is exactly the same as that suleman dude, not adnan.


dawood is the one who always disrespect our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم and when ever members complain about his disrespect he just post a message that he is quiting his moderation privileges for a couple of days for his personal spiritual reasons and run away from community and when he finds everything is fine he comes back with his hypocritic manipulations.


6:37 am (8 hours ago)

Syed

@Saifi,

Rule# 9b. – Abusing Companions/Wives/Imams

Threads / posts which are meant to criticize / degrade / abuse Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم)’s companions, his wives, or any of the 12 imams of Shiite school would not be allowed. In case of criticism on Companions / Wives / Imams, threads / posts would be deleted and members would be informed about the policy of not posting such posts. Repeated violators would be warned. Abusive threads / posts would be deleted and members would be warned for that. Repeated violators can be banned.

was this rule followed in the banning of usman for 3 days?


7:40 am (7 hours ago)

Sound of Silence

Banning of Usman,was uncalled for,specially knowing his clear intentions.



11:03 am (3½ hours ago)

ajaz

Saifi

You should have consulted other moderators before banning usman and taken atleast three moderators consent for such ban as was agreed upon before.After the recent happenings in the islam community your action seems highly objectionable and vindictive.

Sami

I am dead against this one man deciding about the ban on these delicate issues without cosulting fellow moderators about such an action.Especially where personal problems could always play havoc with a man's judgement.I can understand banning people for fake profiles,abusive language.These need immediate action but more serious matters need more consideration than a whimiscal ban.

I know Saifi is a good boy but it was a blunder to choose him a moderator on sectarian basis because this thing is weighing very heavily on his mind all the time.He is not able to shake off the sectarian tag from his mind. I wish he could become more upright as a moderator but i have a feeling that he always feels that it is obligatory to protect his sect which is highly unbecoming of a moderator.


12:08 pm (2½ hours ago)

Dawood (away)

@saifi

what words are you talking about?


these? :

This is what you said about PROPHET (SAW) AND HADRAT AYESHA RA


We all also know that it is not always possible for a mature woman and man to have sex and conceive.






A person with "nomral" english comprehension skill would take this statement as a GENERAL FACT and not a SPECIFIC statement regarding Ayesha (R.A) and Prophet Muhammad(PBUH).

A person with normal and proper comprehension skill WILL NOT EVEN TAKE THE SECOND MEANING OUT OF IT which you and those others did. *with proper english comprehension* that statement doesn't even have ANY hidden second meaning. It is as clear of a general statement as it can be.


Im sorry but your comprehension skill is really bad and not only that you always bring in unrelated quranic verses and make awful analogies.


Who is talking to the Prophet (PBUH) here? Who is raising there voice on Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) here? Who is addressing there reply to Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)?

Tell me what exactly is wrong with this statement:

"

We all also know that it is not always possible for a mature woman and man to have sex and conceive.
"


be specific.



12:20 pm (2½ hours ago)

Dawood (away)

and btw no where Azhar complained about Usman.

THis is what he said to others:

Azhar~ Eid
pls dont misunderstand Usman's statement!!



regarding others who started their bandwagon effect after waseem, i just know from past experience that they all work in a group.





This is so called moderators and ex-moderators of islam community with such unislamic views. this is the reality of Islam Community.

just wait and soon i will upload pictures
of many of these people.


besides that i will show the world their reality. if they are right than they should not be worried about it.

Usman supporting Gustakhi of Sahaba (RA)




usman about hadiths:


after reading hadith usman reaction was "declared this person hyper" nauzubillah


Usman saying Quran have declared Sahaba (RA) as munafiq nauzubillah





click here to look at usman previous blasphemy

Click here to look at the condition of fardeen

click here to look at the condition of dawood

click here to look at the condition of bolour

cilck here to look at usman the disrespecter active part in moderation

click here to look at chuha (mouse) face ozair who is dieing to support disrespect of Sahaba (RA)

click here to look at Aqsa the Quran forger

click here to look at sana the lahori girl disrespecting Sahaba (RA) and Hadiths.

yet more is coming along with the pics of these people please keep checking.